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turn mission so what we can see over

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is the stack spacecraft my role on march

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which is atlo where

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all the delivered components of hardware

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come together

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and make the spacecraft in the southwest

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corner over here we have our flight

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mars 2020 rover and we have the entire

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we try to test all of our hardware to

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the environment that we would see

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for launch of the vehicle for crews

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the the journey from earth to mars for

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into the mars atmosphere for landing as

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well as the surface of mars

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every once in a while we come up and

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take a quick look with all the craziness

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you kind of lose sight of it a little

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over the years it becomes like your

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so you really want to see it do well and

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perform the best that it can

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it reminds you that hey everything that

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all this hard work that you're putting

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in the long hours if it was easy

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we're sending hardware that we built on

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i'm marina jericho with nasa's jet

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propulsion laboratory

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jpl is where the mars 2020 mission and

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the perseverance rover are managed here

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getting to mars is a test of

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perseverance in

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itself it takes thousands of people

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to make this mission a success today we

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as the mars 2020 missions aeroshell

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michelle tomi kalizzi was very busy in

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making sure that the rover was ready for

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and launch operations team after a

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successful launch of perseverance

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she joins us live back home in

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california to answer

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some questions if you have any questions

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you can leave them right here

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in the youtube chat in light of the

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times i'm talking to michelle in

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as we are social distancing welcome

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michelle and welcome back home to

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thank you marina it's very great to be

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back especially after a successful

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so now we're just patiently waiting from

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home doing work until

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the landing in february yes we are all

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february so how did it feel

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to be out there in florida a few weeks

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it was so surreal i mean it's a

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culmination of five years of work

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from just hundreds of engineers and

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perfect day perfect launch

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uh just it was absolutely amazing to see

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and that's so wonderful that it was a

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morning launch we all know that florida

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afternoons can be very stormy

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so michelle breakdown what is your title

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so the aeroshell vehicle lead is part of

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the outlook the assembly tests and

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and the spacecraft is actually divided

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have the rover so each one of those

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vehicles and in my case two of those

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so i have the aeroshell and i have three

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of that hardware to build the spacecraft

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and as we talked about before michelle

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this is a really fast-paced job

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oh yeah um as people's deliveries push

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that happens every two years because of

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the orbital mechanics have to be just

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right uh the planets literally have to

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the project duration is it takes years

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spacecraft so there's various engineers

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fabricate they build they test

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absolutely now the rover was named

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um it actually hits pretty close to home

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i think given the current pandemic and

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everything that happened to us

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it was there were a lot of sacrifices

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made by a number of people

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to make this mission a success

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all the sacrifices that people made

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having to work from home and set up a

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home office if they didn't have it

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to relocate their everyday routine

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to be able to support and make this

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rocket and launched from so it was a

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long stint away from home

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uh quarantining in a place that isn't

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so it uh it was definitely an experience

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it was truly a test in perseverance and

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you guys did an incredible job and

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you have quite an incredible history

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jpl what inspired you in your career

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path that helped get you where you are

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her husband all

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the times of

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amazing it is to work for jpl all the

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and as a kid saying hey wow my grandpa

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touched something that

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like that's just so motivating as a as a

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and it's just it's amazing how now

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working there being able to

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compare stories with my aunt uh with my

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grandfather actually before he passed

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to see how different and yet how similar

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things are given the time span of how

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many years have passed since

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since they sent pathfinder and we're

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sending perseverance

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so it's it's a very cool connection to

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be able to have that with your family

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so it's it's just it's very inspiring to

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it's a bond that you'll always be able

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to share as he was inspirational to you

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now you can inspire countless other

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people as we move

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forward so on that note we are going to

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answer some social media questions

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from all of you folks out there thank

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you so much for tuning in with us today

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we've gotten some incredible questions

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on youtube asks michelle what is the

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i think it's dedication and willingness

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to put a hundred percent effort

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to if you don't know the answer to find

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the answer

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dedication to do it right to take pride

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in your work to work with others

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because it's not one single person can

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do the job on their own and you need to

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be willing to

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communicate and ask for help if you if

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you need it

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and having those qualities being a good

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people person

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being able to interact with others to

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accomplish a common goal

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i think is is very key to have a

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successful

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product as well as a really healthy work

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environment

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because it's a high stress situation and

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the last thing you want to do is

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have an argument with someone over no

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reason is you want a very collaborative

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workspace where everyone shares a common

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goal and is dedicated to get to that

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dedication and hard work as you

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mentioned michelle all the hardware

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comes together and

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forms the spacecraft for the first time

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on the atlo team so rytoy

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on youtube asks where is the rover right

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so the rover is a few million miles away

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from earth as of right now i think it

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travels close to a million miles a day

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away from earth

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on its 280 million mile journey um

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building the rover actually took a

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number of years

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and it all is supposed to come together

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in aloe over the course of

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just a few months where

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we have just very stringent

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documentation

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right we have to solve a lot of small

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issues or fitment problems that may

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arise on the floor with the resources we

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have and the crew we have

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decisions need to be made quickly on the

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fly because we don't have time to just

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stop work and take a number of days or

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weeks

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to figure out a little tiny issues

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that can be resolved by the team on the

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spot

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but it definitely does take it's a

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culmination of years in developing and

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building and making

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sure that we minimize the amount of

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problems that will

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protect that could potentially occur on

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the floor when it does get put together

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yeah i remember we talked about this

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michelle it's just so much preparation

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and research ahead of time so that you

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are organized when you need to be

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oh absolutely there's no time for error

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on the floor uh you need to make sure

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that you're prepared as soon as you walk

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in because the last thing you want

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is a standing army of technicians and

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quality assurance and other engineers

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who are there to support your job

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if you're not prepared as an engineer

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that kind of

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you take a little hit and and people are

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standing there waiting for you to kind

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of get it together

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so a lot of times when it's such a

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fast-paced schedule we're working long

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hours we do

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come home at night and we research and

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make sure that we

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absolutely know what is going on the

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following day's activities

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so we can be there on the floor to lead

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jion asks what material is on the cover

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to survive entry at such high

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so the aeroshell is actually made out of

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various materials

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so the heat shield which is the bottom

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portion of the capsule

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so down here um that's actually made of

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pika which is a phenolic impregnated

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carbon

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ablator so what it's intended to do is

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actually ablate in the atmosphere it's

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sacrificial material

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that the energy to kind of burn and

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deteriorate that material

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will be used to do that rather than

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to transfer the energy as he threw the

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material to heat up the rover

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on the back of the back shell uh we have

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it's a

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sla material that is a lockheed material

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and it's almost it's similar to a cork

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that is actually very insulative and

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they have this white protective paint

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over it

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and that actually does a very

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significant

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job of insulating the rover and descent

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stage that are inside

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because it is really important to keep

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those temperatures

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as stable as we can when it goes through

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the coldness of deep space

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and the heat of entry into the martian

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and similarly related michelle michael

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asks how do you deal with the heat

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of the mmrtg how big is the radiator

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so there's actually a full heat

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rejection system

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for that mmrtg that travels throughout

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the entire spacecraft components

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and what it does is it takes heat away

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from that and

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uh uses a freon to cool it and

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through the like long lengths of tubing

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you kind of dissipate the heat as it

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goes through

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um the size is uh it's

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more of the protective equipment around

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it is large i've never laid eyes

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specifically on

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the flight mmrtg i think very few of us

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do

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um it's a heavily uh it's a very secure

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process

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but uh it is the simulators that i have

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seen

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they are uh quite large i mean probably

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the length of my arm

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and there's a multitude of ground

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support equipment and a very large team

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of technicians and engineers who do work

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on that specifically and put that

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together and make sure that it's a very

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safe

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installation that it rejects the heat

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appropriately

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and doesn't uh heat any of the other

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surrounding components to

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and jf-106 asks do you see future

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changes

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to the components such as the aeroshield

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um i the pica and the sla have actually

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been pretty heritage

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for a number of mars missions and

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they've proven to be successful

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so i think we want to continue to fly

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them until either the aeroshell size is

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just too large where it can't

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do a sufficient job of cooling and we

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need new technology

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or unless something else that's newer

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and better that

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we can have some kind of uh

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thorough testing to give us confidence

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that it will

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exceed our expectations and exceed the

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performance of what we currently use

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but as of right now if it's not broke

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why fix it

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we've had multiple mission successes

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with the materials that we have

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and i think we really do rely

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heavily on that heritage it gives us

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confidence going into

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going into the mission and

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hopefully when we well this will be

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another mission

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to give us additional confidence and a

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bunch of new data with our medley ii

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sensor suite

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to show us what the mars atmosphere

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entry uh conditions and stuff are so

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we've been getting more and more

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uh science and data points from the more

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missions that we have with this

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and it can continue to show us the

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pitfalls or the successes that our

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current materials

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have and michelle you you brought up a

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really great point you're going to have

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some really incredible new cameras

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both on the rover and on the shield that

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is going to actually

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show edl entry descent and landing in a

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whole

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a new light that we've never seen before

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yeah absolutely so mars 2020 has a suite

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of

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edl or entry descent landing cameras

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to show us some really awesome views

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that we weren't able to see

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on the mars science lab or the curiosity

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mission

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so two in particular that i'm really

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excited about are the uh

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the descent stage download camera and

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the rover upload camera

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and i'm a little biased because before

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working as the aeroshell vehicle lead

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i was the cognizant engineer for what's

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called the bridal umbilical device or

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the bud

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of the sky crane that's actually like

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the wench type mechanism that

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lowers the rover from the descent stage

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on these three nylon ropes

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and then there's an electrical umbilical

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that connects the two

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to send signals from the descent stage

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to the rover before the descent stage

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goes and flies away

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so having footage of the blood

509
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functioning from up above

510
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and from down below is going to be

511
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totally awesome because i get to see

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the hardware i specifically worked on

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and spent three years of my life

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building and testing

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uh to see it perform on mars

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as a never before seen kind of footage

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it's going to be exciting for all of us

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michelle to see those pictures come back

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for sure

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massimo asks which were some of the

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biggest

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challenges you and your team faced while

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working on that rover

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um i think more recently the biggest

525
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challenges were how do we

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continue to adapt with the coronavirus

527
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pandemic i mean that was something that

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was totally

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unexpected and none of us have ever been

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00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,360
through anything like this before

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so management really had to sit down and

532
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:07,679
scratch their heads and say hey

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how do we still make this clean room a

534
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,720
safe environment for our engineers and

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00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,240
our technicians in qa

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00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:16,000
to come to work every day and still do

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00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,600
the job we need to do

538
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,840
so there was a lot of work behind there

539
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,520
and luckily it's a clean room

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00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,679
we're all in protective equipment full

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00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,679
bunny suits all you can see are my eyes

542
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:27,039
all day and most of the time we have

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00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,080
goggles on

544
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:30,960
there's large hepa filters that filter

545
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:33,760
the air almost a hospital quality

546
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,320
or even above grade with these filters

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00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:37,679
because

548
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:40,400
we're very concerned with particulate

549
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,039
and

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00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,440
we need to keep the spacecraft as clean

551
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,960
as possible we send it to mars

552
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,240
there's actually a whole planetary

553
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,480
protection team who makes sure we stay

554
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,080
in check and we don't dirty

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00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:53,039
the spacecraft with our own germs

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00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:54,480
pandemic or not

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00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,000
so i think adapting to that um not being

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00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,760
able to go work in your office every day

559
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,520
having to go and do anything that's not

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00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,880
in the clean room from

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00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,880
the comfort of someone else's home in

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00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:06,240
florida that you're renting

563
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,000
um that posed i think a really big uh

564
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,240
feat that we needed to overcome right

565
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,840
we're away from our families

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00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,840
we rely on hanging out with each other

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00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,679
and now we can't even do that so

568
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,679
you really start to kind of feel a

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00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,799
little bit lonely

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00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,720
which you want to keep as clear and

571
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,400
positive ahead as you can so you can

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come to work every day and do what you

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need to do

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and we were all able to get through it

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and we got through it together

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lots of uh texting and

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mario kart remotely with each other uh

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on the nights that

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we didn't have work the next day so we

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did what we could to try to stay

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positive

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to deal with this pandemic and keep our

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heads clear so we could come in to work

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every day

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in the clean room and do what we needed

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and michelle you brought up a really

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good point just staying positive

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and right now a lot of students are

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heading back into a virtual classroom a

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complete unknown to what they've been

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used to and scott is watching with his

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whole class right now and one of his

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students wants to ask you

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what are the possibilities of a

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so far everything's been so good so we

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are just full speed ahead hoping for the

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best

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um we've done this before with mars

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science laboratory

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and we feel confident in the work that

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we've done

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make it a successful mission

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so we all we can do at this point is sit

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back and wait and watch

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and a lot of students are watching so

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welcome to all of you students out there

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00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,840
aldi is asking michelle what would you

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recommend that a high schooler should do

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um there's a lot of ways to get to get

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involved i mean

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we do a lot of stem outreach

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to schools there's especially when

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things are open again

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i personally used to go to career fairs

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my sister-in-law is a teacher and i

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would go and support her career fair

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every single year to try to

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encourage people to study stem

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come take a tour of nasa jpl or your

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local nasa center

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i'm sure they all do tours that uh for

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the public that are open to the public

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go to events like that follow online um

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really try your best in in math and

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science

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that it goes a very long way and makes

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life a lot easier

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um and as you continue to grow there's a

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lot of internship opportunities

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co-op opportunities that the nasa the

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different nasa centers

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have to offer that get young students

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and college students involved to

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hands-on work on a lot of our projects

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i know we do have partners as well with

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a lot of college institutions

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for building certain parts or managing

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certain parts

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00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,520
of our projects and missions to space

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00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,039
so there's a lot of different ways that

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00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:11,200
you can get involved paying attention to

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00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,559
the rocket launches and kind of

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educating yourself

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online reading different publications

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and articles i mean

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being involved in showing interest and

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doing your best in school

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trying to stay motivated stay out of

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trouble

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that really goes a long way and

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determination is key

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00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:30,080
if you want something do whatever it

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00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:37,830
and blind asmr asks how does it feel to

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be

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a woman at the forefront of the

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i to be honest i i mean i love it um

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00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:51,840
i don't think it's i personally don't

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feel

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like i've been discriminated against for

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being a woman versus a man

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at my at jpl i think they do a

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fantastic job of recognizing and

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00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:05,600
rewarding people based on merit

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and i work my butt off and i i

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my management has seen it my peers have

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00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,720
seen it i've seen it in my peers

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00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:15,039
and the harder you work it gets

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recognized

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and especially if you don't continue to

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boast and brag and ask about it but

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you you focus your efforts on the job

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do as best as you possibly can make

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friends with your co-workers

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do uh like you wanna foster

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a healthy productive work environment

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with those around you

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and set an example and others will

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follow

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it at least in my situation others have

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followed

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i work in a predominantly male male

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dominated

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industry and i actually do have a lot of

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friends both male and female

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in the industry and we all just mesh

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00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:55,760
together well

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um if you don't know something people

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00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,919
aren't

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00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:01,760
quick to call you out on it but instead

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00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:04,480
they want to help you learn and i think

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00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:04,960
just

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fostering that collaborative and healthy

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00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,039
work environment with

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00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,279
others really goes a long way to make

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00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:12,960
the experience good for you and for

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00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,950
at the end of the day michelle it's

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about getting the job done that's

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00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,880
for sure is sean asks is there anything

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00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:24,799
extra that i can do so that i can work

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00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:32,789
uh apply apply i mean uh just monitor

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00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,600
constantly

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00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:35,760
the the nasa careers the jbl whatever

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00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:37,919
your closest nasa center is

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00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,519
apply um i mean internships work

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00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:42,720
experience helps

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00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:45,679
get involved in your community right uh

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00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,000
a lot

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00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,399
of outreach helps that looks that looks

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00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,760
great on a resume

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00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:52,000
so build your resume with with different

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00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:53,120
experiences

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00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:56,320
um of helping people of tutoring

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00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,679
of um working on like judging a robotics

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00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:01,679
competition at your local elementary

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00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,159
school

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00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:04,720
getting involved mentoring people i mean

717
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,640
a lot of the soft skills like that

718
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:09,120
go a really long way in building an

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00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,000
application

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00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:11,760
right we have some of the brightest

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00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:14,000
minds but they're very well-rounded

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00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:15,760
people so it's not all about being the

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00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:17,360
smartest person in the room

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00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,320
it's about being a smart enough person

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00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,919
who can also

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00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,080
hold a conversation who isn't quick to

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00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,159
judge people who works hard

728
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:28,080
who ask questions if they don't know it

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00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,519
and is willing to do whatever it takes

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00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:31,360
to find the answer even if they don't

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00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,760
know

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just getting

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00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,640
involved and building building a good

734
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,320
resume with experiences with others

735
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,799
networking is key um and just

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00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,799
keep an eye out and see what jobs are

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00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,080
available and apply

738
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,720
there's no uh there's no penalty in

739
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,480
applying so apply to everything

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00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:52,480
do as much as you can there and just get

741
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:53,519
your name out there

742
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,950
of perseverance michelle thank you so

743
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:03,039
much for joining us today you are truly

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00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,279
an

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00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:06,480
inspiration it's my pleasure

746
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,000
thank you guys for having me the rover

747
00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:12,399
is slated to land on the red planet

748
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:13,880
february 18

749
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,799
2021. for the latest on the mission

750
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,640
follow at nasa persevere

751
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,360
on twitter and facebook you can watch

752
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:23,440
all of the behind the spacecraft video

753
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,320
profiles

754
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,440
on the nasa 360 youtube channel

755
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,279
we will be doing q and a's with mission

756
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:30,960
team members over the coming months

757
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:33,760
so be sure to subscribe to our nasa jpl

758
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:34,880
youtube channel

759
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,600
for notifications if you want to explore

760
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:39,279
the universe from the comfort of your

761
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:39,840
home

762
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:43,120
for

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00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:46,240
families and kids of all ages you can

764
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:46,880
find them

765
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:49,919
on the nasa.gov homepage

766
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,240
thank you to everyone for joining us

767
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,320
here today and a big shout out to all

768
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,600
the kids out there

769
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,919
who are starting school good luck in